Huge Question that I need Answered!

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You know how in Twilight, Alice sees Bella becoming a Vampire? Well, how exactly is she able to see that hapeen> Because Edward hadn't made the decision to turn her, and Bella hadn't made the decision to become a Vampire. Alice can only see what is going to happen AFTER a decision has been made. So i am really confused! Also, you know how the wolf gene was triggered by the Cullens' return? well, Jacob and the rest of the pack (other than Sam) changed AFTER the Cullens left, so I don't understand why the rest of them (after sam) were changing when there was no threat of Vampires (becasue they changed before laurent even showed up)

I don't know, these are the two questions that i can't firgure out no matter how hard i think about it. Any clarification would be much appreiated seeing as i am loosing sleep (literally) over these two questions.

Thanks

Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:09 pm

Wow. I've never thought about either of those before... I think Alice said something about if Edward or Carlisle didn't change Bella then she'd do it herself... So from Alice's point of view it would be inevitable either way.

You know, we really need an "Ask Stephanie" hotline so we can call her every time we have a (preferably Twilight related) problem. Very Happy

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Yea I thought Alice just "knew" Bella would become a vampire, not that she actually had a vision of Bella becoming a vampire. As for your other question, that confuses me too

Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:33 pm

Hmmm...good question.
My brain is a little fuzzy on this, but when Bella was asking Alice about how vampires were made, doesn't the book say something about Bella being able to tell that Alice knew what she was thinking (and why she was asking the question). For Alice to know what Bella was thinking, Bella must have already had the thought about becoming a vampire (does that makes sense? lol). I think Bella already wanted to become a vampire because she was probably thinking that if she were one, she would not have gotten into the whole situation with James. So Alice picked up on this.
As for the werewolves...that's quite confusing. Maybe the gene kicked in in response to Laurent and Victoria lurking around looking for Bella. It's possible that they, or at least Laurent, had been around and just was unseen until he appeared to Bella. And maybe they were already making newborns at this time. So, maybe it wasn't the Cullens that triggered it...
Or who knows...maybe the gene is psychic, lol. Like dogs fur gets thicker in the fall in anticipation for winter, maybe the werewolf gene kicks in subconsciously when vampires are on their way.
Or maybe it's because Jacob and them had been exposed to the Cullens. Even if they weren't around, maybe having been around vampires at some point is all it takes to bring the gene out.
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Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:28 am

I think the reason to the second question is that Victoria was always around looking for Bella. For the first, I'm not sure.

Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:33 pm

I think the answer to the first question is that Bella was beginning to fall completely in love with Edward and the choices she started making made it so that she was going to stay with Edward no matter what. I also think that once Bella knew that Edward was a vampire she immediately began considering and even forming a decision about becoming a vampire. It was like as soon as she knew about his secret, she was just thinking about how to make it work, because she knew she couldn't be away from him.
To the second, like everyone else has said, it was because of Laurent and Victoria. The werewolves weren't phasing because the Cullens weren't a threat to the La Push tribe.
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Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:37 pm

errr, im not sure bout the werewolve thing but the bella vampy thing, they have already made that decision,everyone else besides rosalie andedward want her to join their family
sooo yeah thats all ive got
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maybe, for the werewolf thing, it takes a while for the actually phasing to take place. maybe it takes a while for the gene to be physically kick in. but, isnt it technically in them the whole time? since they're descendants and whatnot. or maybe, they have to mentally acknowledge wanting to become a werewolf for the gene to really kick in. no. was quil scared to become one, or scared because he knew he was gonna become one?

well that was just me rambling.

Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:09 pm

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Ok so the wolf thing makes better sense to me now. Thanks guys!

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HAHAHA EMAIL PHASES AND ASK THEM TO DO THAT AS AN DISCUSSION TOPIC.
...thats what id dooo haha.

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Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:20 pm

Subject: Re: Huge Question that I need Answered! Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:02 pm

I've always wondered about that. And it isn't because all of the rest of them had decided it, because I think we're talking about the beginning of twilight when Alice is just kind of being explained to us, because remember every time Edward talked about Alice, or when Bella mentioned her he would get weird, and Bella never really knew why until the hospital scene (I think). And the wolf thing.... It was already set in motion and it took a really strong emotion for them to change (not always anger, because in Jacob's case it was extreme happiness) ..... I kind of think the answer to the Alice question (sorry i'm jumping around so much...) is that Bella had decided no matter what she wanted to be with him, which means she would unconsiously make the decision to become a vampire, because that is kind of what it is going to take for her to be with Edward no matter what...

.....This was long. Sorry Smile

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I actually think that Alice saw Bella being changed by James, because by that time, James and the gang were probably getting close. Her vision was probably really fuzzy and she couldn't tell who it was that would change her. They may not have made a conscious decision to go to Forks and investigate the Cullens when Alice saw this, but they were probably looking for a meal (if you know what I mean.) By deciding to go to Forks and meeting the Cullens, James then chose Bella to track and have for dinner.

Make sense? I dunno. That's just what I always thought happened.